水电离出的氢离子浓度和氢氧根离子浓度不一定相等,你同意此观点吗?

2025-03-03 03:18:59
推荐回答(5个)
回答1:

首先你要记住这一点 水的离子积只和温度有关(相信你熟知这一点)

你列举的观点有明显的问题 就是将水解产生的氢离子或氢氧根离子看作是水电离出的 这是错误的

所谓水电离出的氢离子和氢氧根离子 除了来源于水之外 还必须是单纯的由水电离 不能是通过反应得到 而你所说的醋酸根溶液中的氢氧根离子 明显包含了水解得到的氢氧根离子

以醋酸钠溶液氢离子浓度1*10^-11mol/L 为例 根据水的离子积 可得到氢氧根离子浓度 1*10^-3mol/L

这1*10^-3mol/L中 来自水自身电离的 依然是1*10^-11mol/L 剩余的部分来自醋酸根离子水解

你列举的

“(1)如果不把水解产生的OH-看作是由水电离产生的,则水电离出的H+和OH-总相等,醋酸钠溶液中存在的关系是:
c(H+)水 = c(OH-)水 = 1*10^-11 mol/L
这样就没把水解产生的OH-看作由水电离产生的OH-,和当前大多数人的习惯认识不一致”

本身就是人们认识上的的一个错误 由水电离产生氢离子和氢氧根离子 必须是同时产生的 如果产生其它物质 则算作反应得到的氢离子和氢氧根离子 等同于外加酸碱

最终结论:

1 水的离子积常数是温度的函数 与水溶液状态无关

2 水溶液中由水电离出的氢离子和氢氧根离子浓度始终相等

3 任何由外来物质或水解产生的氢离子和氢氧根离子 不能算作水电离出的氢
离子和氢氧根离子

4 外来物质或水解导致的氢离子或氢氧根离子浓度增高或降低 那么水自身电离产生的氢离子或氢氧根离子浓度同时降低或增高

5 由水电离产生的氢离子和氢氧根离子 必须是同时产生的

希望你可以理解我的意思 如果还有疑问 可以发消息给我

回答2:

楼主犯的错误是c(H+)水 = c(H+)总 =1*10^-11 mol/L
此处c(H+)水不等于c(H+)总,因为有一部分水电离产生的H+在水解反应中结合到
CH3COOH中去了,那部分结合在CH3COOH中的H也是水电离的和通过这个反应CH3COO- + H2O <=> CH3COOH + OH-水解产生的 OH-是一样的,所以,水电离出的氢离子和氢氧根离子一定相等完全正确,
还有一种简单方法,你想水电离出一个氢离子就势必电离出一个氢氧根,这个肯定正确的,也同样符合了这句话!

回答3:

我认为你的问题在于那两个平衡,实际上溶液中的两个平衡应该是
H2O <=> H+ + OH-
CH3COO- + H+ <=> CH3COOH
两个加起来才是
CH3COO- + H2O <=> CH3COOH + OH-
因为CH3OONa既不能电离出H+,又不能电离出OH-,所以溶液中所有的H+和OH-都是由水电离出的,水电离出的H+和OH-始终都是相等的,只是有部分H+被CH3COO-结合造成OH-浓度较高。

回答4:

不同意,水电离出的氢离子和氢氧根离子一定相等,如果溶液呈酸性或碱性,氢氧根离子和氢离子浓度不同,但不同的部分不是水电离出的.

回答5:

当水是纯水或只有中性物质时,由水电离的氢离子浓度与氢氧根离子相等,溶液呈中性。但如果水中含有酸或碱的物质,这时水电离的氢离子与氢氧根的浓度不等。比如在盐酸中,由水电离的氢离子远小于水电离的氢氧根离子,因为几乎所有的氢离子由HCl提供。

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